Zachary Byron Helm ([info]pyrotech_c3h8) wrote,
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An afterthought...

Although goths don't really invade Dennys' in the same fashion we used to in the 90s when we fucking ruled that restaurant with a fishnet covered iron fist, I still love going there for food and memories. 

When we used to own that place I noticed that there were distinct stages a Dennys' would go through upon our arrival, much like the stages of grief associated with death.

Stage 1, Shock - "What the fuck!? Who the hell are these kids and what the hell is wrong with them that they dress like this!?"

Stage 2, Denial (of good service) - "This can't be happening, not on my shift! I didn't do anything to deserve this. If I just act like this is not happening maybe it will all go away"

Stage 3, Anger - "Those fucking shits stayed here for 5 hours drinking coffee and the most they ordered was french fries god dammit!"

Stage 4, Acceptance - "Damn, it's almost 1:30, better push the tables together, the damned freaks will be coming in again"

Stage 5, Free Food - "Hey! How was the club tonight guys? Your usual tables? Don't worry about the drinks, manager's gone tonight, they're on the house"

Once they figured out we were mostly harmless and entirely amusing we were usually made welcome. There was a good span of 4 years where I never paid for a full meal at Dennys' due to my close association with the wait staff. There was also about 7 years where I didn't pay for Taco Bell because the drive through guy was telling me about all the times girls have flashed him in the drive through.

"Well, did you give them free tacos for the free show?" I asked. He advised me that no, they usually whipped out their tits and then drove off, but that hell yes, if any of them had stuck around he surely would have begifted them some tacos. At that point the girl I was dating took off her shirt and we didn't pay for tacos for a VERY long time after that.

At any rate, Desiree and I were at Dennys' tonight and there was an older woman eating alone. I hate to say this, but I don't think there is any circle of hell on earth that is darker than eating alone at a social establishment on a night like tonight. What does one do in their lifetime to warrant that kind of a moment?

Maybe it's fine, maybe the people who eat alone don't care, but I don't think so. You can eat alone at home for a lot cheaper, it always seems like some sort of silent torture, watching others socialize and laugh while you stare at your own food, alone. If things were different maybe a friend would be walking through the door to give them a joyous greeting, but that doesn't happen. Maybe this fucks with me because it brings me back to my past, sitting alone in the lunch room, too unpopular for anyone to be seen with, just wishing there wasn't a lunch break in the school day. I seriously spent that time wishing there was some corner to hide in, or some place to go that I didn't have to be so accutely reminded that the only person in the world that didn't hate me was the person who packed the lunch I was now eating alone.

And then it hits me...something shitty has been growing in this world, and I'm a part of it. Even as I watched and wondered, I was a part of it. The other night I went to a focus group (I do them every couple of months to get extra cash) and while we were waiting to go into the meeting room NO ONE was talking. Every person in the place was sitting there on their cell phones, texting, surfing, doing anything to ignore the other humans in the room. When did we become this? When did it become acceptable to ignore the living human beings around you so you could concentrate on some shitty piece of plastic and artifical synapses? Fuck this. I am getting farther away from the kid who ate alone, and closer to the fucks who isolated and segregated my kind in grade school. I don't have that attitude, but it feels like the social trends in society have moved me closer to it by association and I am sick of it.

I don't spend my time ignoring the world for my crappy technology, but you know, in a way I am no better because I do it to be alone with my thoughts. We're all getting worse, less friendly and more self absorbed. Less likely to strike up a conversation and more prone to finding something in our pockets to distract us from real life interactions and social graces. Fuck whether your dumb ass can find a street view of the intersection your at right now, can you walk up to another human being and say hello?

This all kind of leads back to me watching someone alone at dinner in Dennys'. The central point here is this- it's a personal resolution. It's nothing big, I'm not leading any great revolution, I don't need a pat on the back, I'm not doing it because it's some altruistic, selfless act, but from now on when I see someone eating alone I am going to go talk to them. I don't care if they want it or not, they are getting some social interaction. I wont let someone else be the lone kid in the lunchroom if I'm around.
 



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[info]clio75

February 27 2009, 10:08:08 UTC 3 years ago

I used to enjoy going to movies and restaurants by myself, simply because it was the only time I got to immerse myself in the world without actually having to participate. Sometimes it's nice to just sit and watch the world go by. I still prefer seeing movies by myself, because I hate that people feel the need to analyse a film after they've seen it. If I liked it I may tell someone later, but I like walking out of the theatre and carrying the film home with me without having to share it with anyone.

I also found that as a single person in a restaurant you hear a lot of interesting conversations because you become invisible.

[info]ilex011_reboot

February 27 2009, 11:20:56 UTC 3 years ago

I too enjoy movies by myself, dinner by myself, etc... but that's a choice on my part- too many folks are out there alone in the world with nary a soul to comfort or understand them...

...and I think I have to end my response now because if I think much more about it here in the wee hours of morning I will get very sad. :C

My brother had it in school as Z described and although he's a grownup now and has found his way, I still to this day am fiercely protective of the guy. He'll always be my sweet, scarily intelligent, too-sweet-for-this-world little brother. *sigh*

[info]reversedrising

February 27 2009, 10:17:39 UTC 3 years ago

Bravo!

[info]ilex011_reboot

February 27 2009, 11:17:13 UTC 3 years ago

Out of the years I've been reading you it's rare that you do these tone of posts, but I like them the best.

[info]rocknghorseland

February 27 2009, 22:59:26 UTC 3 years ago

yeah, I agree.

[info]rioloco

February 27 2009, 11:18:28 UTC 3 years ago

alone?

iam never alone ...i have the little voices to keep company

[info]weezel365

February 27 2009, 11:18:57 UTC 3 years ago

1. Being a wrestler and the incredibly strange crew we roll into places like Shoneys and Waffle House and Omelet Shoppe, we got the same five stages at multiple places for several years.

2. For the few years I stopped wrestling and was living with a couple of friends... they were the only people I ever saw. I would go out and eat, all by myself, just to get away from them. Then there were other times that, because they were a couple, or because they had jobs, I didn't have fucking anyone to be around. Goddamn AIM and LJ were my only connections to the outside world. Yeah, it was embarrassing to eat by myself at the BBQ place or Wendy's or Waffle House, even if I just went and got some food and brought it back to my apartment, but sometimes I would take my notebook and draw people I saw.
Eventually I got to the point where I begged people to come pick me up and take me to a bar so I could have a beer and I could have human interaction.

3. Would you be willing to write a piece for SECS and PEACE about that "getting away from humanity with technology" thing? I would, but, I don't use any tech stuff like cell phones or really anything else beside my desktop.

[info]geekyerin

February 27 2009, 13:13:07 UTC 3 years ago

I was never popular, but I never sat alone, because I very quickly found the reject group. I actually met one of my best friends in high school because she was a weirdo sitting alone (at the time she looked exactly like Ziggy Stardust in a mini skirt), and I asked my reject friends if I could invite her to sit with us. She seemed a little weirded out at first, but she sat with us for like 4 years after that. Really, worst case scenario when you reach out to someone is that they won't want to talk to you....but they aren't gonna talk to you anyway if you don't give it a shot, so what's the big deal? Besides, I find forcing yourself to do things that make you slightly uncomfortable makes you a little braver and a lot more confident in all situations. I also have a tendency to tell strangers when they're attractive.

[info]goddess_thain

February 27 2009, 13:36:25 UTC 3 years ago

with a fishnet covered iron fist

Thank you.
This visual is going to stay with me for a while.
*laughs*


The five stages was something I ran into a lot when I was working at a commercial dungeon - we'd let out at 2 or 3 a.m. and converge on the nearest after-hours bar or 24-hour diner, and it would be interesting.

Most of us would dress down (after an 8 hour shift in fetishwear, you don't even want to see a pair of high heels), but makeup is harder to remove, and the topics of conversation made it easy to figure out what we were... ("*gasp* Did you hear those girls over there talking about prostates, and enemas? What's that one girl measuring out in an arm-span, a client's dick or a strapon? OMG?!??!!111!!")

*snorts*


Considering how much we'd tip on a good night, they got over it pretty quickly... but anytime there was new staff, you'd see the brittle smile of "Oh shit - this is what the other staff warned me about! Where can I hide until they go away?"


As for your comment on isolation - I agree.
I'm guilty of it too... the only way I get out of the house is by having everything directed to my phone, but then between answering emails, IMs and texts from clients, friends, family and new acquaintances, I barely have time to observe the world go by.

Which is why, on the days I take off, I've started turning my phone off for a few hours at a time - I'm a parent, so I can't just leave it off, lest there be an emergency and I don't hear about it until hours later, but I can at least take a break from the mind-numbingness of it all.

Not everyone seems to realize that their phone has an on/off button for a reason.


*wry smile*

[info]evildisco

February 27 2009, 14:04:21 UTC 3 years ago

No one has front porches anymore either. When I was a kid I remember that we knew who everyone was who lived within a quarter mile of us. I still don't know who the hell lives across the street.

[info]queeniexb

February 27 2009, 14:05:08 UTC 3 years ago

I love this post. I also love the image in my head of you walking up to a stranger to chit-chat and they're thinking "Holy fuckballs, I just wanted to eat my Moons Over My Hammy in peace! What is this thing coming toward me?" I'd totally let you chat me up though.

I recently ate at a Dennys and the food was awful. Why did I frequent that place in high shool again? Oh yeah, it was open at 2am and cheap. I can't imagine ever eating there again. All I could think of was when they still allowed smoking in the restarants and one of my cousin's friends unscrewed the cap to the pepper shaker and used it as an ash tray. Dennys is like an obstacle course of teenage pranks. Check the lids to everything before shaking.

[info]randwulf

February 27 2009, 14:15:19 UTC 3 years ago

Self-conscious when eating alone guy here.

I have two scales of discomfort working on me at the same time, of the kind of restaurant, and the time of day. Morning and afternoon I have less discomfort and it increases as the day goes on. I have less discomfort with fast food places, which increases with the scale of the restaurant.

Fast food for morning and afternoon I'll sit down and eat with no problem but not for supper or late evening. I'll sit in a low end roadhouse/greasy spoon up until early afternoon but rarely later. A restaurant of Keg or Kelsey's level or over, never.

Take out doesn't count at all and no matter the level of restaurant I am at ease when I dine with someone.

[info]skullgrrl

February 27 2009, 18:10:26 UTC 3 years ago

Are you Nate Randolph's brother? hehehe

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[info]nerdwerds

February 27 2009, 15:34:56 UTC 3 years ago

I usually went out of my way to sit alone.
The only thing that makes me feel lonely is going to movie theatres by myself, which I no longer do, so I don't see a lot of movies in the theatre unless I'm dating somebody.

[info]kalyandra

February 27 2009, 16:01:12 UTC 3 years ago

Ah Denny's... I too had a crowd much like the one you're describing. We became very friendly with the waitress who served us every Sunday night. When she left to go on maternity leave and eventually quit, we were devastated.

About the rest of your post, I totally feel you there. I was thinking much the same thing recently. When I am in a place where I don't know anyone, I feel really uncomfortable. I think everyone is that way. Everyone can feel it. You sit in a room full of others (like the first week of a college class) and nobody looks at anyone, nobody says anything to anyone. Walking down the hallway or past someone on the sidewalk, it's like a sin to make eye contact, or smile at them. What's the big deal? I feel really awkward but at the same time what can I do? If I try to socialize, I am seen as even more bizarre. That's not fair, is it?

Despite my past seclusion (one that was very similar to yours) I find myself much more social than other people I know. I approach others in a very friendly manner, I say hi, I try to chat. Most people won't approach me, it's usually the other way around. Is it because of how I look, or do I have some kind of feeling about me that I'm unaware of? I have no idea, but I catch myself looking at my phone just as much as anyone else. :/

[info]delkaetre_ni

February 27 2009, 16:52:03 UTC 3 years ago

I find myself sitting alone at cafes quite often- I travel by train a lot, and sometimes there's just nothing else to do while waiting for the train that's been delayed for the Nth time that evening. Unlike the rest of the station, at least a cafe gives you somewhere warm and out of the wind to sit.

Post club, though, it's sometimes really unfortunate to be sitting alone. If you've gone out to a club, you kind of expect that you're going to have a few friends with you when you're getting a bite afterwards. Sometimes, of course, it's for the best- after Torture Garden, I was going in a different direction to the guys I was with. I stopped to get something at McDonald's, and found a fetish photographer chatting me up and perving over my gloves in a manner that made me uncomfortable. I'd rather have just had my fries on my own and left!

[info]rob_t_firefly

February 27 2009, 17:13:53 UTC 3 years ago

I often like to hang out by myself, disappearing into crowds and just people-watching, sketching, or being alone with my thoughts. I don't often do it in restaurants, though, preferring to just pack a lunch and go out to a park or something.

However, if a conversation were struck up while I was doing it, that would also be totally welcome. I've had some great conversations and made some awesome friends that way over the years.

At any rate, there is absolutely no excuse for a group of people in each others' physical presence to ignore their fellow real live humans in favor of their electronic messages. Situations like that need stirring up, badly.

[info]pikachudavidson

February 27 2009, 17:37:32 UTC 3 years ago

Very profound Zach....

[info]skullgrrl

February 27 2009, 18:09:02 UTC 3 years ago

Sometimes what keeps us from interacting is the responses we get from others when we do. It's kind of like a forced bereavement of sociality... when people misunderstand your purpose and make you feel small for it, then you generally stop doing anything to get that reaction.
Bastards, all of them :)

[info]metum_capere

February 27 2009, 20:23:01 UTC 3 years ago

i used to work the third shift at denny's. the goths were really the best customers . I of course knew everyone from clubbing, but the rest of the staff wanted to serve them (though they always sat in my section "let's go see Aja") instead of the other drunks. I made so much money working at denny's. Certainly more than I do now. lol. I miss those days.. a decade has passed, and wtf has happened? where is everybody?

[info]rocknghorseland

February 27 2009, 22:53:31 UTC 3 years ago

yeah Zac, I am that person when Chris isn't around.

It's why I don't leave my house very often these days without Chris, unless I am going to a meeting for work, or I am going to church or something(...which is about 10 blocks from your house, btw).

Every day of the last semester I spent at CU was torture like that. I was visibly pregnant, always standing on the bus, while the people around me paid no attention to anything but their phone conversation or their text messaging. I never talked to anyone except the professors, who always seemed a little put out by it. I'd go everyday, either to Taco Bell or Sunflower market, and eat alone. I used to try to make it look like I was studying, because then it made people stare at me a little less. But did anyone ever talk to me? Never. Most people didn't just stare; they glared at me, because it's considered "socially irresponsible" to be pregnant in Boulder. Weeks would go by, and the only people I ever conversed with were Chris and people over the computer or phone. Miserable.

So I applaud your post here, and the effort to talk to people eating alone. Sure there are people who choose it, but more often than not, in my experience, they're not alone because they want to be. Just my .02.

Bravo, man.

~A

[info]lacedwithpurple

February 28 2009, 00:36:36 UTC 3 years ago

Technology is so safe to us, it makes talking to others feel so unsafe. I think about that a lot, the fact that we don't even say hello to someone we KNOW or don't know. Theres such an anxiety that you might not like who that person will turn out to be, but you could never know unless you said something.

[info]tektonic9

February 28 2009, 06:34:48 UTC 3 years ago

hah nice, the thing is, I used to do the same shit in New mexico, with all the goths(I don't consider myself goth, I just like wearing black) I have always had goths friends and they are still usually very likable and intelligent people. I like hearing that the denny's phenomena goes on in other states as well. Goths ruled the denny's as it has always been the place to go for afterclub grub.

[info]tektonic9

February 28 2009, 06:55:11 UTC 3 years ago

forgot to say, you are very good people. I used to be that kid with no friends at lunch in middleschool and highschool. I used to actually chill out with the teachers (I had the most kickass science teacher ever) for lunch in highschool. He was awesome. Cheers to you!

[info]video_girl

February 28 2009, 09:48:14 UTC 3 years ago

Very powerful and true.
I used to eat by myself all the time in the lunch room (and get stuff thrown at me...not the point though...) I also use technology to escape and be alonem (like I pretend to text, but really I'm just pushing the "up and down" buttons to make to noice, but it's just so people will leave me alone.)

[info]jen_squared

February 28 2009, 15:55:42 UTC 3 years ago

This post really moved me. I'm for once speechless.

[info]otaku_faith

March 1 2009, 01:30:09 UTC 3 years ago

good plan- I might borrow it when I eat out and see someone in need of interaction.

[info]alanja

March 1 2009, 02:00:02 UTC 3 years ago

I would be so pissed if you came and talked to me while I was eating alone! Well, not you, but like a stranger. I enjoy occasionally going out to eat alone (although at quiter semi-nice restaurants where I can actually relax), as well as going to movies alone. People just bug me, even the ones I like sometimes there is nothing that clears my head like being alone and doing whatever the fuck I want to. But I'm also the oldest of four that actually asked for Christmas one year to be an only child...

[info]sidepocket_pro

March 1 2009, 07:56:05 UTC 3 years ago

While I think to understand this phenomena you need to understand the basic psyche of human social interaction and how technology feeds into it, I am going to add your journal because I believe this type of writing is similar to my own thought patterns.

Also, lol Dennys. I went to one a really long time ago and remember it to be crap. Avoid like plague. I do not even know what one inside LOOKS like anymore.

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